Paradigm Concepts

[Nierite]

Just out of curiosity, now that Nier is recognized again in Coryan, what role do Nierites fill in the ranks of the Inquisition? In the previous campaign there was a distinct preponderance of Sarishans and Illiirites in the Inquisition as I recall.
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Cody Bergman

aka = Haakon Marcus val'Virdan, Priest of Nier (Divine 1.
aka = Dyabe val'Abebi, Templar of Althares (Divine 1.3)
aka = Jorma Ostoman, Battlemage of the Coryani Empire (Arcane 1.2)

[Nierite]

Addendum: what is the status of the inquisition in Milandir? Do they have their own branch?
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Cody Bergman

aka = Haakon Marcus val'Virdan, Priest of Nier (Divine 1.
aka = Dyabe val'Abebi, Templar of Althares (Divine 1.3)
aka = Jorma Ostoman, Battlemage of the Coryani Empire (Arcane 1.2)

[EricGorman]

No one official but I've thought a little about those questions too.

On the issue of Neirites in the Inquisition (Mother Church) I would assume that's a natural fit. Judgement and burning away the impure is pretty much the core mission of both the Inquisition and Neir ... surely there are such members in the ranks. As for how many vis-a-via other sub-faiths is interesting. (1)One question is what does the Matriarch think about Neirites in general? Does she find them heavy handed and counter productive? Or deliciously loyal? Elandre ultimately calls the shots and it has been mentioned that she's slowly placing people she trusts into positions of power in the church. How she feels about the faithful of Neir will have a big impact on their overall influence. (2)Another question is - how much effort is it to relaunch Nova Cormata? The recreation of a Neirite province might compete with the Inquisition for able bodied Neirites. OR security of the province against the past incursion by the Cultists of the 1000 Eyed Man might mean that the two effort compliment each other and create synergy.

On the issue of the Inquisition and the Milandesian Orthodox Church ... at a guess I don't think M.O.C./Sabinius has an official Inquisition. I have two reasons for thinking that. (1) One, most of the personel and logistics were in Coryan, so when Milandir went its own way I expect almost all Inuisitors stayed in the Empire. (2) Second it is mentioned that in being crowned the first Primarch by King Osric that his Majesty gained certain rights over the new church. Given the way justice works in Milandir (through Knights and lords) I doubt Osric would want eclesiastic Inquisitors running around outside his control. That doesn't mean that Sabinius doesn't have (or is building) some version of "Special Investigators." Given the character of Sabinius and what we know of him from the past and present arcs I doubt he'd want devout Neirites near him for such duties. A PC playing an ignorant Neirite trying to prove his worth to the Primarch might have some interesting roleplaying oppertunities.

=)
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~Eisener val'Holryn. Holy Champion of Nier and haunted veteran of the crusade
~Formerly Sir Jaeger val'Holryn, gave his soul to help free King Noen from the LLT Banner

[Nierite]

Question: I notice that this game again states that the forces of the Inquisiton typically venerate Sarish and Illiir. I continue to be curious as to the source of this? For example, I would think that having a Nierite Inquisitor would make sense.
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Cody Bergman

aka = Haakon Marcus val'Virdan, Priest of Nier (Divine 1.
aka = Dyabe val'Abebi, Templar of Althares (Divine 1.3)
aka = Jorma Ostoman, Battlemage of the Coryani Empire (Arcane 1.2)

[hustonj]

My best guess?

As the Mother Church has lost her Pantheonistic teachings, the roles of the gods become less important than the power and authority which their priests can wield.

Illirites have become far more dominant since the First Imperium. Sarishans can provide them cold, hard, calculating evaluations based on terms and conditions that the Illirites can specify, unlike Nierites who will claim to know best how to judge the heretics.

In other words, POLITICS have far more to do with this answer than anything else. Nierites aren't known for their political acumen.
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San Antonio, Tx-based Harvester
Jeff Huston
huston.harvester@cox.net

[Auroris]

While the above post is probably accurate from a secular standpoint also consider the following theological position. Sarish is the lord of secrets, one of his many titles, and Iliir is revered as the revealer of truth. So basically, your Sarishan helps you find the heretics and your Iliirite helps to get the truth from them.
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Kailandos, Elorii Chanter of the Rebirth and the Bright People
Prince Arcahvir of the Tir Betoq
Harvester for Iowa
James Vacca

[Nierite]

Here's another question: What is the status of the Inquisition in regards to the other priesthoods? I figure they are basically the strong arm of the 'law,' basically acting as the Patriarch/Matriach's agents and have authority over all other priests, but I am not sure on this. Could a Priest of Nier effectively "overrule" an Inquisitor on the spot as they are the Church's Lawmasters? Could a Archprelate give orders to the Inquisition in their roles as basically Religious Governors?

Thoughts?
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Cody Bergman

aka = Haakon Marcus val'Virdan, Priest of Nier (Divine 1.
aka = Dyabe val'Abebi, Templar of Althares (Divine 1.3)
aka = Jorma Ostoman, Battlemage of the Coryani Empire (Arcane 1.2)

[EricGorman]

I have no doubt that on an organizational flow chart an Arch Prelate outranks general Inquisitors. The leadership of the Inquisition is an interesting question...but I am doubtful that even they technically outrank Arch Prelates. That said any Inquisitor could declare an Arch Prelate a herritic. Once the charge has been leveled things get ... "interesting."

What happens is largely game of power and influence. Is there iron clad proof? How reliable are the witnesses? Has the Arch Prelate been grabbed and put in a cell for "questioning?" Is there a confession? How powerful and popular is the Arch Prelate? How much time an energy does the Inquisitor, the Inquisition and the Matriarch have to prosecute vis-a-via other projects competing for their time? Who else has a stake in the outcome? Who has access to assassins? Gold to hire top tier "fixers"?

Such a confrontation almost certainly destroys the looser.

But on the issue of who gives orders to who ... I don't think an Arch-Prelate can just give orders to the Inquisition either. As I understand it the Inquisition reports directly to the Matriarch (unless I am mistaken...which I could be). Think of it as seperate chains of command. That said again ... if you are a member of the Inquisition and you get a "request" from the local Arch-Prelate, the highest ranking official in your provence, (whom is almost beyond reproach by virtue of their position), are you really going to make too many waves unless something smells very fishy? Or are you going to salute and say "yes sir/How high sir?"
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~Eisener val'Holryn. Holy Champion of Nier and haunted veteran of the crusade
~Formerly Sir Jaeger val'Holryn, gave his soul to help free King Noen from the LLT Banner

[EricGorman]