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Harliquinn
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 Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 12:46 pm Post subject: Glass Steel Weapons question |
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How much does buying a weapon made from Glass Steel cost over and above the normal weapon price?
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| Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 12:56 pm Post subject: |
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Totally, and purposely, left up to the chronicler, it would add several gold to the cost...
most of the time you would find such materials then have it commissioned.
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| Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 1:00 pm Post subject: |
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Given that answer, for the purposes of the Living Campaign, are characters with say Heirlooms, allowed to have those Heirlooms made out of Glass Steel at character generation? Particularly since it appears that the total cost would still fall under the 75gp limit of the Talent.
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StatMonkey
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| Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 1:20 pm Post subject: |
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| Harliquinn wrote: | Given that answer, for the purposes of the Living Campaign, are characters with say Heirlooms, allowed to have those Heirlooms made out of Glass Steel at character generation? Particularly since it appears that the total cost would still fall under the 75gp limit of the Talent.
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I would say no in my home games unless a player had a REAL good reason.
for the home campaign I would not no as well.. the talent does not state you can chose an item made of a special material, only one of exceptional quality.
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Harliquinn
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| Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 1:23 pm Post subject: |
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That's a fair answer, though not what I was hoping  . The main reason was to get a 'light' version of my Flintlock Pistol for TWF purposes. I figure getting my Heirloom from my uncle who was in the Emerald Society might mean he'd come across an exotic Flintlock or had it made for easier transport and concealability (I know the rules wouldn't support added concealability, but it was flavorful). My main fighting style (as of now) is Steel Whip + Flintlock as a melee weapon (after firing it off of course) using TWF.
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SamhainIA
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| Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 3:06 pm Post subject: |
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aside from that No from pedro, in the last campaign glassteel wasnt really allowed for flintlocks on the grounds that the people that make glassteel(tir betoqi) are not the same people that make flintlocks (alterians)
I REALLY REALLY wanted one in the last campaign to use as a psionic focus... and you know to watch the explosion
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Harliquinn
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| Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 3:18 pm Post subject: |
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| SamhainIA wrote: | aside from that No from pedro, in the last campaign glassteel wasnt really allowed for flintlocks on the grounds that the people that make glassteel(tir betoqi) are not the same people that make flintlocks (alterians)
I REALLY REALLY wanted one in the last campaign to use as a psionic focus... and you know to watch the explosion |
I disagree and say that it makes perfect sense for Flintlocks to be made of Glass Steel based upon the actual write up of the substance in the book:
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A vein of this strange ore was first discovered on the ocean-facing side of the Altherian Plateau. A deep gray color when first mined, this ore is run through several purification processes and a multi-stage smelting technique that soon produces a semi-clear material of impressive strength. At first regarded as an expensive novelty for the rich, the philosopher Umandi val’Abebi later made the discovery that when items made of Glass Steel were specially treated they could help focus psionic energy, in essence turning them into foci. |
Not only was Glass Steel discovered in Altheria (The nation that controls Flintlock distribution), but the person responsible for using it in weapons was a val'Abebi (The Val family responsible for making Flintlocks). Therefore, it would make great sense to make Flintlocks out of Glass Steel for several reasons stated directly in the book.
Granted, Pedro (and the PCI Team) gets to make the rules on access for the campaign, but there is nothing in the rules against this. In fact, the rules support it on several levels.
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| Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 3:57 pm Post subject: |
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I can see a glass steel barrel on a flintlock.. but the stock would still be wood.. and it would remain the same size.. thus remain just as hard to hide as a normal flintlock...
and do you have any idea how nasty that thing would LOOK after 5 shots?
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You really want to make a gun-barrel out of crystal?
Seriously?
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| Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 4:09 pm Post subject: |
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| Perhaps this is one of the many reasons why the Altherians were WISE enough not to create Glass Steel Flintlocks, even with that resource discovered in their backyard. |
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| PCIJames wrote: | You really want to make a gun-barrel out of crystal?
Seriously?
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Sure why not. I'd make it out of blown glass, load it up with some extra powder, hand it to someone I don't like, and suggest they take a practice shot. Thanks for the rules on explosions. 
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Harliquinn
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| Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 5:27 pm Post subject: |
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| PCIJames wrote: | You really want to make a gun-barrel out of crystal?
Seriously?
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Snarkiness aside, the writeup on the substance says it's an ore, which makes it a metal. It is smelted to produce semi-clear material of impressive strength. If they are making Greatswords of this stuff that are swung around with great force against shields and armor, I see no reason why it wouldn't work for a Flintlock. Besides the 'cool' factor of a translucent Flintlock, yeah I think you could make a gun-barrel out of the ore. Now, if you're saying Glass Steel is really glass, then you need to change the writeup in the book.
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| Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 5:29 pm Post subject: |
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| Runs With Kio Sword wrote: | | Perhaps this is one of the many reasons why the Altherians were WISE enough not to create Glass Steel Flintlocks, even with that resource discovered in their backyard. |
Not sure why everyone thinks it's glass...it's a metal ore that has impressive strength, is light weight and a somewhat translucent property...
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I stand corrected the text does indicate an altherian relationship now.
I was talking about things in the revious campaign where the only ways that I remeber for PCs to get glasssteel was from the tir betoqui
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| Harliquinn wrote: | | Runs With Kio Sword wrote: | | Perhaps this is one of the many reasons why the Altherians were WISE enough not to create Glass Steel Flintlocks, even with that resource discovered in their backyard. |
Not sure why everyone thinks it's glass...it's a metal ore that has impressive strength, is light weight and a somewhat translucent property...
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I'm not sure why you think its a metal. Ore doesn't mean its metal, it means its a mineral aggregate that can be mined. Usually that means metal, but not always.
I didn't mean to be snarky; but if you really want to get technical, metals are crystals. They have lattice-structures and different structures produce different types of strengths (forging for example typically adds carbon into the lattice-structure changing its ductile strength).
Just because a metal is 'strong' doesn't mean that it makes a good weapon.
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