Paradigm Concepts

[Archangel]

I have a player considering a Ying Hir horseman and they had some questions I couldn't find any real answers to in the book.

How do the mount's actions interact with the rider's? ie can the mount use its turn to move its full speed (basically any but a charge) then the rider attack with their weapon?

Can the mount still use its attacks while the rider uses theirs?

For the Hawkeye talent tier 1 states you don't have penalties for movement or uneven terrain, I can't find where these penalties are to know what to apply if they don't have them.

What is the difference between a Riding horse and a Quality Riding horse?

How can a bird of prey be trained as a hunting bird when it doesn't have enough available tricks? (d6 die and requires 6 tricks according to Beast Lore skill)

The Path of Spells in the Animism school don't all have the information the animal you would transform into. Where should we look should someone (PC or NPC) cast these spells?

[Dead.Zone]

[StatMonkey]

[Archangel]

So the mount and rider are considered one creature, effectively at least. That is what I was thinking but I had seen systems do it both ways and wanted to make sure I had it right.

I completely managed to miss the part of the beast lore skill where it talks about training an animal for a purpose.

I assume the stats for animals that are duplicated in the core book and bestiary, the horses are the one's i'm thinking of, use the stats presented in the bestiary rather than those in the core book.

[StatMonkey]

[Vashti]

[whitepanther]

so here is another question regarding riding a horse. i recall reading in the mounted combat section that you gain the +2 tactical edge while mounted on a horse, i assume it is due to the fact that you are elevated above those opponents that are grounded. my question then is this, if you have the talent Use Terrain, do you gain its benefits since you are effectively attacking from the elevated position?

[Dead.Zone]

Gaining Tactical Edge while mounted is more specific than just being mounted. From the "Steeds" section (pg. 215)

[hustonj]

Tactical Edge can be claimed for pretty much any reason you can justify it.

You can justify 37 reasons for getting Tactical Edge under a specific set of circumstances, but you only get the benefit ONCE.
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Jeff Huston
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[whitepanther]

i guess my thought process is that the horse is in a very broad sense terrain, while mounted you are higher in elevation then the other guy and can see the battle field better then others, something like taking the mountain top of having a snippier in an elevated position one is using terrain to there advantage.

i am kinda of the like mind as scott on this one, especially having the npcs attack the mount, if they find that they can't hit the pc. i was talking with another acquaintance of mine who plays and judges and from what i gathered from him he is also almost of a like mind but stated that if he attacked the pc and missed but would have hit the mount the mount would then take the hit. I don't fully agree with that idea do to the fact that it was essentially 2 attack for the price of one w/o using martial tricks.

which this in turn may lead to another question, pete has already confirmed that a rider and mount are effectively one creature, then would the mount gain the defenses of the rider and the benefits of the rider but would then loss those benefits if the rider dismounted?

[hustonj]

As I see things . . ..

The mount/rider are combined in order to control action parity, to keep one player from stealing more of the show than he should.

I most certainly EXPECT distinct targeting instead of the automatic dual-targeting. Especially given how important horses are in some cultures. Some opponents simply won't want to risk harming the primary loot available from the encounter: the mounts!

If the mounted opponent is proving too difficult, the goal becomes dismounting him. That may or may not involve attacking the mount. Trips and grapples are both obvious ways to try to pull someone off of a mount. Many pole arms were created specifically to make it easier to remove people from saddles.
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Valeriano Innocenzo Camillo de Larissa la Galletti
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Jeff Huston
huston.harvester@cox.net

[Dead.Zone]

[StatMonkey]

Oh heck no..

someone can still attack the mount.. but you know, that sounds like a REAL good talent....

Someone should write that up and e-mail it me :::winks:::
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[Deviknyte]

A talent that defends your mount would be nice too.
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[mininin]

As would one that lets your mount use its move independently of your clock (although you would still need to spend some kind of action to steer I imagine...)

heck no... way more complication then it's worth